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So Boehner finally Sues Obama. Can we sue Boehner, et al, then?

baby-boner-mute-button-paciferYou definitely know that the United States has become a lawsuit-happy country when one branch of government sues another branch, targeting the President. Talk about a major temper tantrum.

What I would like to know is can we, the people, sue Boehner and the Republican party for wasting our tax dollars in addition to delaying any future progress of Congress doing what they’re supposed to do? But then, what exactly is Congress supposed to do? It’s rather become a grey area now……

Seriously, though, this lawsuit is a major waste of time – and an enormous waste of our tax dollars. I can guarantee Boehner and his groupies are not paying for this out of their pocket. I would imagine that they only way they could get a law office to take the case is because the GOP will be paying BIG BUCKS!

Personally, and I don’t care WHO is in office, one branch of government should not be allowed to sue another branch — especially the President of the United States! OMG! We must be the laughing stock of all the other countries in the world! Even with the bullying tactics of Vladimir Putin, and the brain-washing regime of Kim Jong-un, at least their governments are not throwing tantrums that would put a 2-year-old to shame! I am completely embarrassed and hesitate to admit I’m from the US when I travel internationally.

I read through the lawsuit case filed, but the allegations just seem vague to me, although part of the reason is because it’s written in “lawyer-ese”. The suit sounds like nothing more than a lot of complaining, beating around the bush, the “House has an obligation to stand up for the Constitution”, blah blah blah…. I just don’t see anything clear and precise, such as “Obama and his administration didn’t make their beds on January 14, 2012.” According to the various articles on the internet, one interpretation of one of the items being sued over is in regards to the administration’s implementation of the Affordable Care Act:

The suit accuses the Obama administration of unlawfully postponing a requirement that larger employers offer health coverage to their full-time employees or pay penalties.

Hold the phone!!! Wasn’t the whole GOP party up in arms for these past six years by continually complaining about the ACA, attempting several times to repeal it, and even shutting down the government? And now Boehner is complaining that some of the implementation was postponed???

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Image credit:
Boehners caricature head was created by DonkeyHotey.
The rest of the image is my embellishment.

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  1. “But then, what exactly is Congress supposed to do? It’s rather become a grey area now.”

    Not at all. Congress is supposed to uphold the US Constitution.

    In the American system of government, Congress passes laws and the President issues executive orders to his bureaucracies to carry them out. The Constitution clearly states that his job is to “faithfully execute” the laws passed by Congress. He has no authority to make up new laws himself. Obama wanted the “Dream Act”, to give amnesty to millions of criminal invaders, but Congress did not legally authorize it.

    In a fit of pique, Obama ordered his bureaucracies to put the Dream Act’s intentions into effect WITHOUT legal permission from Congress to do so. That’s called ‘violating the Constitution’, of which Mr. Obama is fully aware. He even said so.

    “[T]here are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are [here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. … I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.” (7/1/10) Obama

    “I take the Constitution very seriously. The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with [the president] trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all. And that’s what I intend to reverse when I’m President of the United States of America.” (3/31/08) Obama

    Now that he has boldly violated the Constitution in the manner he warned must not be done, Mr. Obama has obligated the Legislative branch to appeal to the Judicial branch to remedy this violation. That’s how the American system works.

  2. Yes, Congress is supposed to uphold the Constitution. But that’s not what they’re doing, thus the grey area.

    All presidents, and most politicians for that matter, have said things that later in time they contradict. Usually there two reasons why… 1) They have gained more knowledge and their views have changed. Perfect example, Obama’s views on same-sex marriage; or 2) the change of mind fits their current needs. Often these two reasons blend into one another, but isn’t always a bad thing.

    Sure, Obama said those things, but, especially in 2008, when he was not even in office, I don’t think he had even the slightest clue as to what really goes on behind the doors in the oval office. I don’t think any candidate running for their 1st term as POTUS knows. There is more power in the shadows of the Executive Office than any political candidate ever knows about, or can even imagine. For example, I believe that not shutting down Guantanamo was because of the military powers-that-be which Obama didn’t have a clue about prior to taking the oath. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are even some sort of implied threats made.

    It also takes a wise person to know that sometimes our country needs to do what is right, and makes the most common sense. It would be a huge tax burden on our country if we were to round up all the illegals (undocumented if you want to be politically correct, but for my purpose here, I use “illegals” just because I’m used to hearing it and it flows better) and deport them. Plus, it’s simply an impossibility to find them all and deport out. So what can we do to improve the situation? Obama did what I find to be an excellent solution, but I would have liked to have seen even more done for the illegals.

    I just recently came back from Belize and took a side trip into Guatemala. Although I was there solely on vacation, I could still see the fringes of what life is like for most in Guatemala. I don’t blame these people one least little bit for illegally coming into the US, especially the children. I would do the same myself if I was in those same circumstances. My primary goal would be to just to get away from the horrible, murderous way of life there, and just stay hidden as much as possible in the US; put food in my belly and have a solid floor with a secure roof as opposed to a dirt floor and a thatched roof that leaks — the needs and desires are minimal. But primarily, a safe place for my children where I wouldn’t have to worry about the drug cartel, or the military, coming in and either taking my children or bringing harm to them.

    Sure, they all broke the law by coming over illegally, but they didn’t have an option. If a woman is in labor and her husband drives her to the hospital, going over the speed limit by 30 mph, then should the hospital say, “Sorry, you broke the law by speeding here. You can’t come in and have your baby”? We are a country of immigrants, not genocidal maniacs (for the most part, anyway – Ch-ch-ch-Cheney).

    As a person with morals, I would lose all respect for any president that would choose to purposely throw innocent people back into those circumstances — that is pure genocide. If it means going against Congress — who is deadlocked and the GOP refuses to budge as they’re still pissed that they couldn’t make Obama a one-term President — then so be it. Sure, Obama could have fought the hard way, gaining nothing while millions of people suffer and die.

    I hope Obama used more of his executive power. I’m sick and tired of this Congress – and that goes for both parties. Harry Reid has just as many bills on his desk as does Boehner.

    In living down here in a part of the country were I, being a white woman, am a minority, plus living near the section of the city that has more business signs in Spanish than they do in English, our daily routines intermingle every day — and it in no way negatively affects me. I have never competed for a job with any undocumented person – in fact, I have found that it is easier to get a job in this city than it was in any of the prior white-dominant places I have lived. The illegals do not show up at the welfare office demanding food stamps, contrary to every GOP’s beliefs. The illegals find any job they can – and work hard at it, always showing up on time – and use that money for food and shelter. With health care, they do go to the government-assisted clinics — but then, I do, too, even though I now have good health care and make nearly 6-figures a year in income. It just so happens I like the doctor out of the public health care office that I first went to when I was on public assistance back in 2008. For the most part, though, the illegals I see at the clinic are either elderly or are there with and for their children, who are the innocent ones in this murky soup of hatred. Most of these people are a productive part of society, even if minimally so. It’s time to welcome them and legally make them a part of our country rather than treating them like dirt forcing them to hide in the shadows.

    Of course, there are no absolutes in life and there are the exceptions to what I’ve described above. The exceptions cannot be the ones that make the rules and laws, however.

    • “Sure, Obama said those things, but, especially in 2008, when he was not even in office”

      Umm… no. The first quote was in 2010, when Obama had been in office a couple of years. And remember, he claimed to be a Constitutional Scholar. His first quote IS CORRECT.

      Here’s another:

      “I am president, I am not king. I can’t do these things just by myself. We have a system of government that requires the Congress to work with the Executive Branch to make it happen. I’m committed to making it happen, but I’ve got to have some partners to do it. … The main thing we have to do to stop deportations is to change the laws. … I am obliged to execute the law. That’s what the Executive Branch means. I can’t just make the laws up by myself. So the most important thing that we can do is focus on changing the underlying laws.” – Obama, (10/25/10)

      “America is a nation of laws, which means I, as the President, am obligated to enforce the law. I don’t have a choice about that. That’s part of my job. But I can advocate for changes in the law so that we have a country that is both respectful of the law but also continues to be a great nation of immigrants. … With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case, because there are laws on the books that Congress has passed.” – Obama (3/28/11)

      The President is REQUIRED by the Constitution to “faithfully execute” the laws passed by Congress.

      But remember how he mentioned to Mr. Putin’s man that he’d have “more flexibility” after the 2012 election?

      Mr. Obama insisted that he would bypass Congress to do what he wishes if they do not pass laws to legally permit him to do so. That is unconstitutional. He knows it, he has said so repeatedly. This is not some right-wing source, it is Mr. Obama himself, laughing in your face as you defend a position that he has repeatedly told you is incorrect.

      The rest of your post is irrelevant to the issue. His feelings for other people do not carry the weight of law. We do not have a Dictator or King. Our Constitution is written to prevent one man’s wishes from becoming royal decrees. He is a servant of the Legislative branch. He may veto a newly passed bill but our immigration laws are the law of the land and have been for a very long time.

      So, it is up to the Legislative branch to appeal to the Judicial branch to remedy the unlawful acts of the Executive branch. If you passed Civics 101, you’d know this. It’s the American System.

    • ” It’s time to welcome them and legally make them a part of our country rather than treating them like dirt forcing them to hide in the shadows.”

      It is a nice sentiment. I may even agree.

      That is why you must contact your Representative and your Senator and explain your feelings to them.

      If you allow Mr. Obama to pass unlawful decrees just because you agree with the sentiment, you’re opening up this nation to the most heinous lawlessness. Just think – the next President may feel that it’s time to eliminate all gay couples’ wedding licenses (now that the Federal Government has unlawfully taken control of marriage). Why? Because a lot of people would like that. And you must embrace that executive decision just as you embrace this one. It would be a monster of your creation.

      Don’t embrace a Dictatorship. You may not like the consequences.

      I will happily explain to you how Mr. Obama worked to CREATE THIS CRISIS, if you like. In part, it begins with the Leftist coup in Honduras back in 2009, which Mr. Obama so happily embraced. He glowingly called it ‘democracy’ (just as he did the brutal Arab Spring) yet it is the cause of the horror from which those ‘children’ are fleeing.

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